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    2015 Palma Championships Day 2

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    Let me start this with a few thanks for folks that helped me get to the 2015 World Long Range Championships.  Thank you to my lovely wife, Valerie, for encouraging me and supporting me as I began training hard for the matches earlier this year!  Thank you Eagle Eye Precision Ammunition for your extreme generosity and for making the best .308 ammunition available!  Thank you Sinclair International for being so generous to me and for allowing me to be generous to your fans from other countries; they really enjoyed the hats!  Thank you Forster Products for making the best reloading gear which helped me to make the best batch of ammunition I’ve ever made!  Thank you Sierra Bullets for making those laser beam bullets for the US Palma Team, they are the best bullets I’ve ever shot and I hope I get to shoot them again in four more years!  Thank you Chesebro Rifles for getting my world championships barrel chambered and installed in short order and for encouraging me to try the McGee offset stock!  That stock turned out to increase my ability to see through the rear sight by an amount that created a noticeable improvement in how I could see the target.  Thank you Decot Sport Glasses for making precisely ground shooting glasses readily available and for making me never think twice about switching from contacts to using their glasses for my subtle -0.50 diopter correction in my right eye!  Thank you all very, very much for everything you did to help make sure I was prepared to represent the USA in the 2015 World Long Range Championships!

    8/14 was the last day of the 2015 Palma Trophy match and it was also my 28th birthday :-).  At the beginning of the day we were in 2nd place in the match, about 30 points behind Great Britain.  Every shooter and coach was excited to pick up where we left off and see just how well we could perform together as a team.

    As a shooter on the United States’ Palma team there are ample opportunities to get nervous and psyche yourself out.  I remember being nervous the first time I shot on the Palma team in Australia in 2011.  This time around I never got nervous and that was a blessing.  I was very glad to be able to share my calmness with one teammate in particular who has been just a little anxious going into the first string at 800 yards.  After chatting a bit and encouraging them I felt like I had contributed to our team not just by shooting, but also by helping to lift up my fellow teammate.  I really enjoyed that, and I was glad God gave me encouraging words to share with my teammate.

    This last day of the team match was my birthday which was really pretty special.  The night before I went out to a wonderful dinner at a local Japanese hibachi steakhouse and on the range everyone was wishing me a happy birthday, it was all very jovial and fun.  At 800 yards the firing points were awful, it was as if there was a shallow ditch on the firing line and we had to setup perpendicular to the ditch with our bodies extending across it.  For whatever reason, this had the effect of really tightening up my position and I was rock solid.  800 yards was a little rough for us as a team, but 900 was a bit better.  For me, it was the same at 900 yards, my position just felt a little tighter than normal and the gun settled right on the center of the target.  That doesn’t always happen, and I bet if I could figure out the magic recipe I could bottle it, sell it, and quit my day job.  Until then, I’ll just be grateful that it happened to be just so during the world long range championships; that’s the perfect time for things to go right!

    1000 yards was exciting.  It wasn’t necessarily exciting for me in a good way.  The conditions were very challenging and resulted in moments of rapid fire followed by many minutes of waiting.  During one transition from one such period of rapid fire I extracted the round from the chamber (something I always do when given a “hold” command) and it felt funny.  I didn’t think much of it until I was told to make ready and I was unable to get the round to chamber again.  Upon inspection I found that the projectile has lodged itself into the rifle of the barrel and was extracted from the case spilling gunpowder into my chamber and action.  Wonderful, I thought.  I’ve seen this happen to others before and I’ve never had it happen nor have I ever worried about it happening, because the way I load my ammo this occurrence was physically impossible…or so I thought!  After some minor fussing around and some quick help from nearby teammates we cleared the blockage, cleaned out the action, confirmed the bore and chamber were clear, and reassembled the rifle.  I got back on target and finished the string without any further excitement, thankfully!

    As the dust settled we found ourselves having finished in 2nd place.  2nd place in the world may sound disappointing, heck it’s not gold!  The truth is, however, that this is another baby step in the long road of completely revamping the US Rifle Team from the ground up.  In placing 2nd place, we also posted a score higher than we or any other team had ever shot before; we broke the Palma Trophy match record by 8 points!  The team from Great Britain shot amazingly well and pushed the new record even higher.  Let’s think about that for a moment.  Both the US and Great Britain have increased their performance so much that in order to get 2nd place a nation had to shoot better than any team ever had before, and in order to get 1st place a nation had to set a new Palma Trophy match record.

    I feel very blessed to have been counted a member of this elite group of shooters and coaches.  I am extremely proud to have contributed to the USA’s silver medal in the 2015 Palma Trophy match!


    The final scores are here:


    Some thorough write-ups on the match from the perspective of the Great Britain team are here:

    And here:

    Some photos are here:

    Here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    2015 Palma Championships Day 1

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    8/11 was the last day of the world long range championships.  Going into the last 1000 yard match I was in 14th place apparently!  Well that wasn’t going to last long, the last 1000 yard string kicked my butt.  The wind was extremely challenging and I was not on top of it.  I dropped to 33rd place after shooting a 69-2V.  It was a disappointing finish, but I was working as hard as I could, it was just a very challenging condition.  Finishing 33rd in the world isn’t necessarily bad, the 400+ people here represent the best each nation has to offer with regards to long range shooters and it turns out I can count myself among their top ten percent.

    8/12 was a practice day for the Palma teams.  We shot practice at 800, 900, and 1000 yards.  It was a good practice, the team is looking good.  I’m very excited to be part of the team and it’s a real honor to shoot alongside some of the best our country and the world has to offer.

    8/13 was the first day of the Palma Team match.  This is a very prestigious match with history going back over 100 years.  We shot very well at 800 yards and we shot pretty well at 900 yards.  At 1000 yards we struggled a little, but we aren’t totally out of it just yet.  While I was on the line at 1000 yards the wind was very twitchy and we had a cease for at least 15 minutes wherein I baked in the sun.  When I got up from shooting my clothes were soaked through with sweat.  I was glad to finally fire my last shot.  This is a marathon match which will continue all day tomorrow.  Tomorrow, my birthday, we will shoot the whole course again.

    Some pictures are here:

    Here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    2015 World Long Range Championships Day 3

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    The 1000 yard match I shot at the end of yesterday was thrown out.  After I shot and left the rain really dumped on folks and there were enough cease fires called (for boats in the impact area) that they decided to just cancel the match.  The net result of this is that today’s 800 yard match was canceled so that we’d shoot 900 yards once and 1000 yards twice today.

    One especially fun thing happened today; I converted all of my sighter shots.  What does that mean?  At the beginning of each string of 15 scored shots, we get 2 practice shots (called sighter shots) and if those sighter shots are good we can elect to keep them.  Today, at both 900 yards and 1000 yards, on three different occasions in three different wind conditions, my first shots landed within just a few inches of the center of the bullseye.  This is particularly wonderful and while there won’t be any awards given for this, it is really encouraging as a shooter.  If I was a sniper, having my first round land within just a few inches of my aiming mark would be absolutely necessary.  Since I’m just a target shooter, and I use no scope and no bipod, it’s all the more interesting and exciting that I was able to do this!  God really has given me a fun and exciting talent!

    At the morning’s 900 yard match the wind was relatively calm.  I shot carefully and ended up with a 75-10V.  That may be good for about 100th place J.

    At 1000 yards, things changed quite a bit.  The first string at 1000 yards was pretty calm, but it was tricky.  I fought hard for it and ended up with a 74-8V.  I lost one point where I missed the wind, but I didn’t feel too terrible about it.

    On the second 1000 yard string it was much trickier.  We are allotted 23 minutes to fire all of our shots.  I fired my last shot with about 15 seconds to go.  I was spending most of my time waiting and not shooting.  The wind would change direction and speed very drastically and I felt like I could sort of tell what was happening.  I may have understood it, but it was also part of my strategy to simply avoid shooting when I could see that others were losing lots of points to the wind.  After my first ten shots I hadn’t dropped a point, and then on my 11th shot, I got caught pretty big with a wind change that I missed.  The change was so quick, it changed in the 5-10 seconds between when I checked the wind and when I made my shot.  At any rate I ended that string with a 72-6V and I felt pretty bad about it.  It turns out, that was about 50th place for that match, out of 400 of the best long range shooters in the world, which is saying something.  The wind was tricky, really tricky.

    So after day three of the world long range championships I’m actually sitting in about 20th place overall.  There is still one more 900 yard string and another 1000 yard string to go.  With that in mind, just about anything can still happen, so we’ll have to wait and see what tomorrow holds!

    Scores for the grand aggregate of the world long range championships are here:

    Scores can be tracked here:

    Also, here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    2015 World Long Range Championships Days 1 – 2

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    This post will cover days 6 through 9 of my trip to Camp Perry (8/6 through 8/9).

    8/6 was a day off for me!  Yes I got a day off from shooting, isn’t that interesting.  Well I’m glad I got it, I really needed it.  What did I do with my day off?  I worked nearly a full day for my employer in order to save a day of vacation time.

    8/7 was the America match and I had the extreme pleasure of shooting in it for the USA.  The America match is a big deal to the USA and it had never been lost on US soil.  Notice “had” was past tense.  We did not perform well as a team and it was a real bummer.  Great Britain showed up and kicked everyone’s butt with a simply amazing score.  Kudos to the GB team and we need to learn from our mistakes, lick our wounds, and get back after it!

    8/8 was the first day of the world long range championships.  The US Army’s Golden Knights parachuted in, led by past world long range champion and past US Palma Team member Sheri Gallagher.  That was followed by the flag raising ceremony.  After that enjoyable spectacle we had 800 yard, 900 yard, and 1000 yard practice before a lunch break and the first match of the championship.  The first match was at 800 yards.  I shot a 75-8V out of a possible 75-15V which was good for 114th place, haha!  Tough crowd to be shooting with here.

    8/9, today, was the second day of the world long range championships.  We shot 800 yards, 900 yards, and 1000 yards with 15 shots and 2 convertible sighters at each yard line.  At 800 yards the flags were literally hanging on the poles, no movement at all.  When I got down to shoot they had started to move just a little, but it was hardly anything.  I shot most of the string with just 0.5 to 0.75 minutes of wind on the rifle.  I ended with a 75-10V, it looks like that put me on the 4th page of the scores, 144th place!  That is hilarious!  That’s a perfect score with 2/3 of the shots in the center bullseye and I’m in 144th place.  Those results are here:  At 900 yards the wind had picked up slightly.  I picked a condition and took my time shooting.  I was very pleased to shoot a 75-9V; that was on the 2nd page of results, good for 56th place!  Seriously this is ridiculous.  At 1000 yards everything had changed.  The wind was up full speed out of the east.  I took my first sigher with 8.5 minutes right and caught a wide 5 on the left.  I ended up using 9 minutes right for most of the string; that means that the bullet was being pushed about 9-10 feet off course because of the wind.  I shot the string very quickly, in just 9 or 10 minutes total and ended up with a 74-8V.  I was pretty bummed about the one 4 I had, but it was an odd one I couldn’t explain, and that’s just how it goes sometimes.  At 1000 yards it doesn’t take much to put your bullet slightly off course.  Losing my first point of the world long range championships was a bummer, but it’s not the end of the world.  I will likely be in about 300th place on that 1000 yard string, but I’m not out of the running for the match altogether just because of one point.  Scores for that first 1000 yard string are here:  I was really blessed at 1000 yards.  There was a last minute squading change which made it so I shot first.  I shot quickly then scored and packed up my stuff.  Just as we were loading up the car the sky opened up and just dumped on the range.  We got totally soaked and we were only outside for a few moments.  I was very blessed to not have to shoot in that weather.  I’ve been on that relay before, but today I wasn’t!

    Yesterday my lovely wife showed up and tonight my parents will show up.  I’m excited to be able to share this with them and I’m hopeful that we can make some really good memories.

    Scores can be tracked here:

    Pics from day 6 and 9 of the Camp Perry trip are here:

    Also, here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    2015 Fullbore Nationals Days 2-3

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    Yesterday and today complete the individual fullbore nationals.  Yesterday morning I shot the tiniest little group at 300 yards, 12 out of 15 shots were within a 2.5” V ring and the remaining 3 shots were just slightly wider.  In order to get a sense of the caliber of shooters present let this sink in: I shot a 75-12V out of a possible 75-15V and I got 14th place.  The results for that match are here:  I had a very difficult time at 1000 yards on the second day.  The wind was strong and out of the west, a typical Camp Perry wind.  Clouds were rolling in and the mirage disappeared often, the target would go dark without direct sunlight, and for some reason I was not perceiving the changes in the wind very well.  It was a bummer.

    Going into the second day I was in 2nd place in the short range aggregate:  I lost a point today at 600 yards which dropped me all the way down to 13th.  I don’t like to play what-ifs, but if the shot which was a 4 had instead been a 5 I would have been tied for 3rd place and if it had instead been a V I would have been tied for 1st place.  That is a bummer, but it’s not a total loss.  I shot well in these matches holding very good elevation; the points I lost were to missing the wind.  Since I’m shooting this all as practice for the big team match (The Palma Team Match), then the fact that I’m holding hard and breaking good shots is really what I need to focus on.

    At the end of the 1000 yard match today there was the top 10 final.  If you recall, I had the extreme pleasure of shooting in this last year (see post here).  This year Norm Houle was the lone US Palma Team member in the top 10 final.  He shot extremely well and had the highest score in those final 15 shots at 1000 yards.  He moved up and finished in 5th overall.  Results for the final are here: Results for the fullbore nationals aggregate are here:

    Ok, now there were some items I was going to follow up on…  Ok that rifle I posted pictures of, let’s start there (Pictures are at this post).  That rifle was homemade around a Barnard action (the same action I use) using three major tools: a drill press, a belt sander, and a hydraulic press.  The rifle didn’t look like it should shoot very well, but its owner and proud builder shot out the V-ring with it!  A large piece of aluminum was drilled out until it was a perfect interference fit for the Barnard action.  A hydraulic press was then used to press the action into the aluminum block.  The stock is also built around aluminum and the use of the belt sander is apparent.  All of that and the rifle just plain shoots!  Another one I said I’d follow up on was the Great Britain rifle team.  I think we could stand to learn some things from them.  They seem to have a much different team dynamic than we do.  In the morning before we shoot, every member of the GB team gathers together for some morning pre-game rituals (stretching and such, nothing too wild).  Where are all of the US shooters before we shoot?  The US rifle team members are scattered throughout the line, doing their own thing.  This is something small and simple, but it is likely a small piece of the puzzle which helps the GB team to work well together.

    Tonight is the US Palma Team dinner and then tomorrow I get a day off from shooting.  It may not seem like anyone would need a day off from their hobby, but trust me, the day off will be nice and much appreciated!

    Scores can be tracked here:

    Pics from day 2 and 3 of fullbore are here:


    Pics of GB team being together and the US team being dispersed are here:

    Also, here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    2015 Fullbore Nationals Day 1

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    First post from Camp Perry!  I’ve been wildly busy each night with fun team events and such so I’ve not been able to get anything written up until this evening.

    I first got to Camp Perry on 8/1 and I shot the last match of the long range nationals (the individual Palma) as my first practice match.  It went pretty well, although I didn’t win the relay roulette game and I ended up on a particularly tough relay at 1000 yards.  I don’t think any of the top scores came off my relay, or at least I didn’t create one.

    Pics from day one:

    On 8/2 we had a team Palma match where we shot with our squad as we will in the big match (the world championships!) in two weeks.  I hate to sound like a downer, but it didn’t really go all that well for the great USA.  Great Britain has been consistently kicking our butts in team matches for a numbers of years; they are good at it (more on this later).  If the team Palma on 8/2 was any indication of how we will fair in the team world championships, it’s not looking all that hot for the USA.  Results are here:

    I’m trying to be very critical of myself during this as I’m trying a lot of new things.  I’ve previously worn contacts with a very minor correction while I shoot, I switched to corrective shooting glasses a few weeks ago (Decot sportglasses if you’re curious  I also did something a little more major, I changed the stock on my rifle.  Since 2009 I’ve been using a Masten prone stock donated by MT Guns.  The stock has worked well for me over the years and I’ve never had any real complaints, but I’d never tried anything different either.  I had just such an opportunity recently to try a McGee offset stock which Chesebro Rifles had in stock when they put my new barrel on (  The way this stock fits my face is much more comfortable.  I can get closer to the rear sight without getting bumped by it.  Also, my face can rest on the cheek piece much more comfortably.  This is a lot of change right before the world championships.  Things seem to be going well.  I’ve shot some really small groups so far and feedback from the coach says I’m doing fine.


    Today, 8/3/15, was the first day of the Fullbore Nationals here at Camp Perry.  There were some logistics issues at the range, but I think the folks working that need us shooters to give them some more grace.  Many of the line officials are volunteers and they put in long, long days on the range simply because they love the sport and want to help out.  It was a bumpy start, but it will all get sorted out and I’m no less thankful for all of their efforts.  In fact, I’ll have to make sure I thank some of them tomorrow on the range.  Today we shot 300 yards, 500 yards, and 900 yards.  We got two convertible practice shots (sighter shots) and 15 shots for score at each yard line.   I’ve previously typed up what this means, so here are links to two posts from last year where I explain some of the fullbore shenanigans:

    Also, here is a link to a blog by Gary Rasmussen, shooting phenom and my coach on the Palma team:

    Today went pretty good shooting wise.  At 300 yards I shot a 75-10V out of 75-15V and that was good for 17th place.  I shot a perfect score and 2/3 of my shots went into a tiny little 2.5” bullseye 300 yards away and that was only good enough for 17th place; there are some incredible shooters here.  At 600 yards the wind was a little tricky so I was quite please to keep them all in the center and finish with a 75-9V out of 75-15V.  Many folks lost a point or two here and not doing that is a leg up in this match.  900 yards was interesting as expected.  The first 2 or 3 shooters shot in relatively little wind.  Many high V perfect scores were shot.  I scored for the guy who won it, shooting a 75-13V.  I barely saw him touch his wind knob and he put them all in the center, great shooting really!  It was a different story for the remaining groups.  The wind picked up, then had a big switch from east to west before stabilizing at a higher velocity wind out of the west.  The range went nearly silent during the ~5 minute long switch.  I think I only hear 3 or 4 gun shots in that time.  Everyone knew you’d be throwing away points if you shot at that time.  I shot dead last in a pretty consistent ~10 mph wind out of the west south west.  I didn’t shoot a perfect score, but in the conditions I was pleased with my 73-8V.  It was the best I could do, so it will have to be good enough for now.

    I took some pictures of a very interesting rifle I saw and a score that it shot, I’ll have to comment on that later as it’s getting late.  Home made rifle using a drill press, belt sander, and industrial sized hydraulic press.  I’ll leave it at that for now

    Scores can be tracked here:

    Pics from day today:

    Change Is Coming!

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    This weekend was deactivated.  Yup, that’s right, the online store portion of the business was closed.  What does this mean?  Well it comes as part of some radical business changes.

    Small business retail sales proved difficult with the time I was able to spend advertising and helping customers, so something needed to change.  I wasn’t providing great customer service and I wasn’t making money; both are needed for a viable business.

    Where is Kelly’s Gun Sales going?

    Low volume, super high customer service, that is where we are going.  Have you ever wanted a concierge for the firearms industry?  Have you ever used a personal shopper for clothing or something else and then wished one existed for shooting sports?  In short it works like this:

    We talk and define general and specific requirements for your purchase (planned use, worst case use, budget, timeline, etc.) then I sift through the thousands of options which exist in the market looking for the ones that best meet your needs.  I typically narrow it down to three or so options and present them along with my reasoning and my recommendations.  We come to a consensus on which item(s) fit the need(s), I source them and get them all setup.  If we just built you a full setup (say a rifle), then we meet on the rifle range for a coaching session so you can test drive your new rifle.  After the fun we end up at the shop and complete the paperwork and such.

    It’s like, if you can imagine, buying a super high end sports car.  The salesman would make sure the car was setup just right for you and you may even get a track day with the car.  I’m trying to do something like that, but for the firearms industry.

    The white glove gun buying experience, that is where we are going.


    Google Knows

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    They know, they really do.

    I got a phone call from Google today; they were seeking to confirm information I had used to create a Google listing for my business, Kelly’s Gun Sales.

    I previously confirmed all of this information so I asked why I needed to re-confirm and they said they had “noticed a decrease in internet traffic to and relating to [my] business” so they “wanted to make sure nothing had changed and that the business was still operating as it had previously.”

    Why was there a “decrease in internet traffic to and relating to [my] business”? Well, following our home purchase at the end of 2014 I have basically put by business on hold, only servicing repeat loyal customers, but seeking no new ones and not making any advertising efforts at all. Google knew. I’m planning a significant business model change and I hinted at it here, but maybe Google already knew…

    Maybe for a moment we can confuse them by creating a spike “internet traffic to and relating to [my] business” today. Well, probably not, but we tried.

    Eagle Eye Brass vs. Lapua Brass

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    This is a shortened version of a longer report. The longer report is not yet posted online, but includes more in depth statistical analysis. When that report is posted, this will be updated with a link.

    I’ve used Lapua brass right out of the box for a number of years. It’s good brass. You don’t have to take my word for it; Lapua brass has a great reputation amongst competition shooters from many disciplines. It is the default brass used by the US Rifle Team and many other top tier groups of shooters. It is consistent and it offers many reloads before needing to be retired. It is for this reason that I recently compared Eagle Eye brass with Lapua to see how the new company’s brass would stack up. The long story short is that I spent many hours of my Christmas break measuring brass, carefully loading cartridges, on the range, and then sat back in a little surprise at the results.

    Part 1 – Visual Inspection and Lots of Measurements

    I had 100 pieces each of Lapua and Eagle Eye brass for this comparison. Each came out of a single box, each from a single lot. After visual inspection of the brass I noted that a large number of the Eagle Eye brass had what looked like little burs in the flash holes. The burs where not very thick and they were always on the case side of the flash hole, never on the primer pocket side. I took some pictures of the worst one and placed them at the link below. The Lapua cases did not have any of these non-uniformities in the flash holes.

    Photos of Visual Inspection

    Further visual inspection was pretty subjective, but I made the following observations:

    The Eagle Eye cases had an orange tint on the inside, Justin Brown of Eagle Eye said this was due to a particular type of wash used for the brass. I thought the Lapua brass looked a little nicer, but that is a very subjective comment as it is based on appearances only. Others have had the opposite opinion, that the Eagle Eye brass generally looked nicer; that’s very subjective.

    All 100 cases were measured for weight and length. In both cases, the average of three measurements was recorded. Most noteworthy are the extreme spread and standard deviations observed. With regards to weight Eagle Eye brass had a standard deviation of .240 grains whereas Lapua had a standard deviation of .754 grains. It is highly significant and surprising that the Lapua standard deviation on weight was 3x larger than with Eagle Eye.

    Table 1 – Brass Weight & Length

      Eagle Eye Lapua
    Weight (Grains) Mean 167.644 173.807
    Std. Dev. 0.240 0.754
    Range 1.000 2.700
    Length (Inches) Mean 2.0038 2.0079
    Std. Dev. 0.0006 0.001
    Range 0.003 0.004


    Part 2 – Loading the Ammo and More Measurements

    Using a single jug of Hodgdon Varget powder, a single box of Sierra 2156 155 grain projectiles, and a single box of Federal GM210M primers I got everything ready to build some ammunition. The RCBS Charge Master was used to weigh powder and a Forster CoAx press with Forster dies was used. The un-exciting step which I’ve skipped was sizing the brass, that was done with the above setup and then the brass was tumbled for 10 hours to remove sizing lubricant. After sizing cases grew in length by about .001” (not all were measured after sizing, just a few to get an idea of what was happening). After loading the ammunition, each loaded cartridge was again weighed. The mean weights differed by almost the same amount as the difference in mean case weight (I.e., the powder charge and difference in bullet weight did not add much additional variation) as shown in Table 2. After visual inspection of the loaded cartridges I noted that the lack of chamfer on the inside edge of the Eagle Eye brass had led to small pieces of the bullet’s copper jacket being scraped up when the bullets was seated. An example photo is at the visual inspection photos link above. The Lapua brass already had a slight chamfer so this was isolated to the Eagle Eye brass. I speculate that this observation is confined to the sample of brass I received as I have not observed this with any loaded Eagle Eye ammo. It is possible that the brass I received was removed from the production line prior to the step where the chamfer is applied.

    Part 3 – Velocity Measurements

    At the range, the ammunition was fired 10 rounds at a time first with 10 rounds Eagle Eye, then 10 rounds Lapua followed by a time for the rifle to cool down. This was repeated until all 200 rounds had been fired, each time alternating which brand went first. The 10 shot groups fired varied in sized from approximately .75 MOA up to 1.5 MOA. In many cases, the first three to six rounds fired would go into one ragged hole before the remaining rounds would increase the group size. Consistency of aiming point (mostly affected by mirage off of the barrel) and other environmental factors are assumed to be responsible for the larger group sizes. The ammunition was fired in the same order that the loaded cartridges were weighed so that any relationship between cartridge weight and muzzle velocity could be observed. The mean velocity for Eagle Eye was 3004 fps and the mean velocity of Lapua was 3020 fps. The difference in mean velocity with the same load is speculated to be the result of differing internal case volume which lead to differing load pressure resulting in differing velocity for the same load. The table below summarizes these measurements. It is noteworthy that some statistics gymnastics revealed a correlation between loaded cartridge weight and velocity for the Lapua ammo but not for the EE ammo. My palma rifle was used for this testing; it has a 30” barrel with a 1:13 twist and was shot from a bipod with a scope over a chronograph which was 10 feet from the muzzle. Analysis of the data in Table 2 showed that the difference in standard deviation was statistically significant. Also, note the interquartile range (IQR) difference between the Eagle Eye and Lapua.

    Table 2 – Cartridge Weight & Muzzle Velocity

      Eagle Eye Lapua
    Weight (Grains) Mean 374.85 381.16
    Std. Dev. 0.271 0.750
    Range 1.200 2.700
    Velocity (Feet Per Second) Mean 3003.96 3019.95
    Std. Dev. 10.750 13.017
    Range 50 51
    IQR 13 21

    Part 4 – Conclusion

    Lapua brass was used as the benchmark by which the new Eagle Eye brass could be compared. Close visual inspection showed the Eagle Eye brass could be refined in some areas in order to be as presentable as the Lapua (E.g., flash hole uniformity, chamfer on case mouth, etc.). Measurements of weight and length showed that the Eagle Eye brass was more consistent than the Lapua brass. Velocity measurements showed a correlation between overall weight and velocity with Lapua cased ammo, but not with Eagle Eye cased ammo. This could mean that some of the variation in weight with Lapua brass is also responsible for altering the internal volume of the case, thus changing the load’s pressure and ultimately the projectile’s velocity. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised by what I measured in the Eagle Eye brass. Out of the box, with no modifications other than re-sizing (which was done to both Eagle Eye and Lapua brass), the Eagle Eye brass created a round that was significantly more consistent than my typical competition load.


    For more information about Eagle Eye Ammo and its current offering of match ammunition please visit Eagle Eye here:   Note that the Eagle Eye brass tested is not yet available for purchase, but it is the same brass used in their loaded ammunition.

    Small Business Saturday Sale 2014

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    Small Business Saturday Sale

    11/29/14     10AM – 5PM

    596 Industry Drive Suite 220

    Tukwila, WA 98188

    Anderson Manufacturing Stripped Lowers just $54.79, that’s $60 out the door!

    Federal Auto Match 22LR 325 rounds just $41.08, that’s $45 out the door!

    .40 S&W 180 gr FMJ 50 rounds just $16.43, that’s $18 out the door!

    .45 ACP 230 gr FMJ 50 rounds just $18.26, that’s $20 out the door!

    IMR 4895 gun powder 1 pound just $27.38, that’s $30 out the door!

    Forged steel reloading press, does up to 50 BMG just $59.36, that’s $65 out the door!


    I’ve also got primers, targets, AR-15 magazines, Mini-14 magazines, exploding targets, stripped uppers, and more.  As my business model is changing going into 2015 I’m trying to liquidate the inventory I have.  I’ll be selling everything at my cost or just barely above it.

    I’ll also be taking orders of firearms over the next week or two if you’d like to make any final purchases before the rigors of I594 become effective.

    Stripped lowers and 22LR can be pre-ordered online until 11/28/14 at midnight and then they will be available on a first come first serve basis on 11/29/14.

    Pre-Order Anderson Stripped Lower

    Pre-Order Federal Auto Match 22LR


    With questions or special orders, you can email me at or call at 206-486-6887.

    *heavily discounted prices include cash discount. On this day only there will be a 2% fee for credit cards.